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onetimeonly
06-27-2005, 10:19 PM
I have been playing this game since late last October. I do not know any of you nor do i want to. Through out this game i have not wanted to be friends or have had any friends.
It is unfortunate for me, to get the better items in this game a group is need, going alone is impossible. Regardless of how i seem, i help others often and can be trusted. For those that know me, you already know i do not like to talk or have mindless conversation, but this is overshadowed by my ability and knowledge of this game. My knowledge of Dynamis is very limited, i have only been one other time. So i am in need of instruction.
I can be available for any planned Dynamis event. As for your ruling, it is no matter to me without question i do not care. Also i am not wanting to join so i can get what i want and leave, i am not so fickle. I will help anytime i am invited. I usually hunt or go ballista with my game time. You can talk to me in the game if im not busy with the two or away.
Cyrus
06-27-2005, 10:34 PM
We shouldn't have to hound you to come. Becoming a member of the LS implies that you come to every run you can whether you need the AF for the zone or not. The point is to help those who helped you. You recieved a complete set of monk artifact armor and never came back. ;)
Shizune
06-27-2005, 11:16 PM
No one has to INVITE YOU TO COME to help others. And wasn't it you who said who it was a waste to come because every run costs 20k and it was a loss of exp?
Edit: How come you only came where you can get AF (without having people to invite you)and stopped coming after getting full AF2? Q_Q
onetimeonly
06-28-2005, 01:13 AM
I have never left linkshell nor, do I have to be hounded to come. The last dynamis fights I have been to there were too many people. Besides when we go to the upper regions. I have no obligation to be there and I am not going to be friendly about anything about this,every problem I have had with people in this game have come from lies or people complaining about things are not even issues. It is simple if you need my help I will come if not, do not waste my time, money and experience. I have no problem helping I help others more than you think I do. Also everyone pays the same price as everyone else. No one owes anyone anything. To me it sounds like some of you are making a problem out of something that is not even anything at all. Instead of talking to the source, you bicker amongst yourselves making a problem. Next time there is a dynamis event, which I know when they are, I also still have linkshell, since I have not really quit like some of you have made up, I will go if you need my help. Also saying I went only to places where there were armor, is a complete lie, and it proves how mindless some of you or one of you are, and how problems come from things that are not even problems at all.
Shizune
06-28-2005, 01:36 AM
...but you still stopped coming after getting full af2 >_>
Teorem
06-28-2005, 01:43 AM
I didn't want to bite on this, seeing as "Shinfuuma" exists on the board. But hell, it's less boring than waiting for a HNM to spawn, so I'll play along.
The last dynamis fights I have been to there were too many people.
Exactly when was the last time you attended a Dynamis run? We have rarely had to turn away anyone because of a full run in recent history.
I have no obligation to be there and I am not going to be friendly about anything about this,every problem I have had with people in this game have come from lies or people complaining about things are not even issues.
The obligation lies in helping others to attain what it is they want from Dynamis, it being AF, an upgraded relic weapon, fun, prestige, something to brag about on a random FFXI-related message board, or any or all of the above.
No one said you had to be friendly, but it helps.
By attending our runs, and moreso by gaining from them, you have yourself set the expectation that you will be there for others.
It is simple if you need my help I will come if not, do not waste my time, money and experience.
Aha.
Ahahahahah.
*Your* time, money, and experience? How many people wasted their time, money, and experience getting you those armor pieces you wear now? Even a MNK using Souleater + Asuran Fists can't solo a Dynamis zone. Whether or not you want to admit it, you owe a lot of people a debt of gratitude for helping you attain something you could never have done on your own.
Instead of talking to the source, you bicker amongst yourselves making a problem.
For the purpose of this game, you are the source. Bickering is a waste of time, so I will suffice to simply demonstrate where you are wrong.
Next time there is a dynamis event, which I know when they are, I also still have linkshell, since I have not really quit like some of you have made up, I will go if you need my help.
Having a pearl to this Dynamis linkshell is an open invitation to attend runs that you are able to go to. You seem to have misinterpreted this; we don't have to send you /tells. Most players are responsible, and can check the website or the /lsmes to find out when and where our next run is.
If you are interested in not having us do all of the work for you, please feel free to check these resources for a run you might like to attend.
Also saying I went only to places where there were armor, is a complete lie, and it proves how mindless some of you or one of you are, and how problems come from things that are not even problems at all.
Unfortunately, I have to agree with this one. Though the term "lie" may be stronger than applicable, you did go to at least one run in a zone where there was not MNK AF. Otherwise, how else would you have gotten to Dynamis-Beaucedine?
And I am feeling a bit mindless right now...staring at this void along with 20 other people in the world waiting for something to spawn that I will never be able to claim is kind of mind-numbing.
So the moral of the story is:
Don't use Souleater and Asuran Fists. It's a waste of my MP to try to Cure you, and you get so much hate that you die anyway.
onetimeonly
06-28-2005, 04:05 AM
hmmm. no.
From all the things you have just replied to whats your point?
You do not think a monk with stun is a good idea? Or maybe a soul eater asuran fist to try and kill a monk dynamis enemy using hundred fist when stun is not good enough? This has nothing to do with anything.
Exactly when was the last time you attended a Dynamis run? We have rarely had to turn away anyone because of a full run in recent history.
I never said i was turned away. this also has nothing to do about anything.
For the purpose of this game, you are the source. Bickering is a waste of time, so I will suffice to simply demonstrate where you are wrong.
you have not demonstrated anything. No one is wrong about anything, the people that are making stuff up know what they are doing, what are you talking about?
Unfortunately, I have to agree with this one. Though the term "lie" may be stronger than applicable, you did go to at least one run in a zone where there was not MNK AF. Otherwise, how else would you have gotten to Dynamis-Beaucedine?
No, lie is about right.
Aha.
Ahahahahah.
*Your* time, money, and experience? How many people wasted their time, money, and experience getting you those armor pieces you wear now? Even a MNK using Souleater + Asuran Fists can't solo a Dynamis zone. Whether or not you want to admit it, you owe a lot of people a debt of gratitude for helping you attain something you could never have done on your own.
I do not know how many? Debt of gratitude. hmmm. I have not quit. I have not said i have left. The people that i owe are the same people saying that i have quit ect. It is obvious to anyone you can not do dynamis alone. Dynamis is not just for one person, everyone pays the same price as everyone else, and has the same chance at everything unless there are priority.
Having a pearl to this Dynamis linkshell is an open invitation to attend runs that you are able to go to. You seem to have misinterpreted this; we don't have to send you /tells. Most players are responsible, and can check the website or the /lsmes to find out when and where our next run is.
If you are interested in not having us do all of the work for you, please feel free to check these resources for a run you might like to attend.
You seem to have misinterpreted this.
We are part of a linkshell, not a cult. I have not had the time to go to a fight, however if someone needed help i would have went. I am usually 100 experience into 75, and i do not have a lot money, nor infinite time i have been busy. Everyone that goes now, has something they are trying to get. As for me it would be a loss of 20,000, and possibly level 74.
No, i did not stop going after i got all artifact 2, i also did not get all artifact 2 from this linkshell.
Zymurgy
06-28-2005, 04:54 AM
"Also i am not wanting to join so i can get what i want and leave, i am not so fickle."
Ok, so you get full af2. Then you stop coming. You say you don't want to waste your time. Ok i can understand that, you aren't getting anything out of it. You don't want to waste your money. Actually the way i see it, if you were lotting currency or items, you'd be making more than 20k in the run, thus not wasting money at all, you'd actually be making money. Don't want to waste experience. How often do melees die in dynamis? I'd be surprised if you die once, and I can't imagine you dying twice, unless for some stupid reason we have two full wipes or something. We've gotten to the point where people don't die much anymore.
Next point, you don't want to waste your time. Ok, lets think about it like this. Take for example, the Dynamis-Xarc run you got your af head from. Did 64 pieces of af drop? What about all the other people that helped you get the af? They weren't wasting their time? What about the other monks who lost the lot, they weren't wasting their time? They are still coming, trying to get the af you got, while you aren't coming because you already got it.
Unfortunately the way the site is set up, af info is only displayed for those on the active member list, meaning they had to have been to one of the last 8 runs (number is being changed to 4 tomorrow). You aren't on it, meaning you haven't come to at least 8 runs in a row. I was going to show you a comparison with exact numbers, but since i don't have them, I'll just throw in some ballpark figures. Lets say for example, you came to.....20 runs. Now, i KNOW you didn't, i know you came to less than 20, but i'm just putting out a number here. So you got 5 af in 20 runs. so...lets look at the other side of the spectrum. Teorem has come to NINTY (90) runs, and he doesn't even have full af, he only has 4 pieces. ok so his ratio is 4/90, or, 4.44%. meaning he got af on only 4% of the runs he came to. your ratio is 25%. What does this mean? you got af once every 4 runs, and then stopped coming. there is absolutely no justification you can come up with to show that you are "not so fickle", since as it seems, in actuality you ARE so fickle as to never show up. Why exactly does someone have to ask you to come? In the past 8 runs, we have had to turn down people from coming ONCE, and that was Jeuno; jeuno is always packed. So since you are so hard headed and stubborn that you'll never accept anyone's word as truth, I will personally send you tells every wednesday and sunday 1-2 hours before dynamis, asking you to come to every run, unless the run looks as if it's going to be full. Since as you said, you'd come if someone asked, I will be asking you.
Oh, and I had to add, after re-reading the last post.
" We are part of a linkshell, not a cult. I have not had the time to go to a fight, however if someone needed help i would have went. I am usually 100 experience into 75, and i do not have a lot money, nor infinite time i have been busy. Everyone that goes now, has something they are trying to get. As for me it would be a loss of 20,000, and possibly level 74."
Wow ok, let me get this straight, you had time to go to the runs you could lot af for (i assume you made time for it, if you are always so busy), but after you got all the af2, you just magically became so busy that you couldn't make time anymore? Oh wait, and you're usually 100 exp into 75? I hear many great stories about your crazy antics in king ranperre's tomb monk parties. So if for some messed up reason you like keeping at yourself at 100/44,000 and choose to stay on merit rather than getting buffer, that's YOUR OWN PROBLEM. Everyone that goes now has something they are trying to get? Hmm....the way i see it, Fatman got full af2 the Xarc run after you did, and he's still here. It would be a loss of 20,000? you don't have lots of money? Uhh...like i said before, you don't lose money in Dynamis unless you lot af. In fact, last Xarc run everyone who lotted currency got 95,000 gil. And the run was free too! that's....let me see, 95,000 - 0...I think that's 95,000 gil more than what I started with. "and possibly level 74". Please don't think we're all so dumb as to believe that.
Shizune
06-28-2005, 05:16 AM
Don't forget exp papers :p last run was at most -300exp for most ppl :D
don't encourage him to come back though, we know what he has done already Q_Q
Scytale
06-28-2005, 06:24 AM
Regardless of our much af you got and why you needed to leave. If you had reasons both in game or IRL that restricted your ability to attend runs, why not just make a post about it? Most people who have things come up (School, work, vacation, etc) usually say "Hey guys, I can't make the next few runs I'm taking my dog on his yearly trip to Las Vegas." Or in Shinfuuma speak "/nod Radav. /tell Radav No more come, school, thanks."
Image and Perception, this is all we are left with. Kinda like the ol' "If it looks like a duck, and quacks like a duck..must be a duck!" :P
You get full AF, and you roll out, no notice, no goodbye, no justification...that does look rather fishy to everyone. I think at this point even if you HAD a good reason or not is Moot, most people PERCIEVED that you just got what you wanted and said "Screw you DB" Kinda like the guy I helped get his O Hat yesterday, he gets first random, gets his hat, then warps...how do you think the other 6 people waiting who needed help felt??
Don't think us heartless, I'm sure with time if you came back and helped "Pay it Forward" to aid the very people who got your af to get what they would like, things will change. But as of right NOW, you have created this "Image" for yourself.
onetimeonly
06-28-2005, 11:30 AM
This is my last message. I am not going to read all of this, and i could reply but i am not. I have already said i have not left more than 4 or 5 times. If i did leave which i have not. It would be different and i would not have made a message here at all, and i would have discarded the linkpearl for extra inventory, and if i really did leave you would not be able to encourage me to come back. I will go to the next event if i am not busy.
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