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Radav
04-25-2005, 11:40 AM
Well our last attempt we got him to a sliver... One more WS or full blast from a BLM and he'd probably be dead right now. Sooo we're gonna stick to our strategy. I'll ask that you get everything on the list again. If anyone needs to xp this week give me a /tell I'll be looking to get a few xp sessions in.

One thing we might wanna think about is having the melee hold back until after DL uses Oblivion Smash. This way we might eliminate people getting crushed all at once like we did last time. I saw the whole episode literally with DL doing his damage right in my face. So I saw close up everyone re-raise then him doing dispelga shortly after then bang OS again.

I'm gonna copy and paste the information from the last post I made. I'll make some additions to it at the end.

I'm posting this stuff now so that you guys can get all of these items way ahead of time. So here is the repost of stuff you MUST get.

Opo-Opo Necklace
2 stacks of sleeping potions.
1 stack of Poison Potion to use on Dynamis-Lord He can use sleepga.
Item to use to get yourself Re-Raise
Icarus Wing (I'll do my best to get enough of these for next Sunday.)

These items are really important which I've said like 3 times already.

Echo Drops
The BEST food you can buy.
Eye Drops


I can't stress enough using your best food. So get whatever is appropriate for the WS that you are using. We also have some big alterations to our strategy that we are gonna employ this time. I really like them. Fatman came up with this so I'm gonna copy and paste it below.

Adjusted Strategy:

1. Pull DL to the spot where melee will use their TP. PLD will be assigned to stand where DL should be stopped at.

2. RDM/DRK uses Chainspell Stun.

3. Melees use their TP and begin running away to safe camp. If you notice DL turn to follow you wait till BLMs have hate to move out.

3a. BLMs watch for HP to start falling then start casting their first barrage of nukes.

3b. (This is a suggested thing we might think about trying.) SAM 2 hr. Chains with himself making a skillchain that you can burst Thunder off of. Just a suggestion.

4. BLMs keep nuking while stuns are still going on. PLDs are off waiting for stuns to stop so they can come in and use their invincibles to keep DL busy while BLM get MP and melee get TP.

5. Stuns are done. PLD take turns using invincible to marathon DL on the level between the BLM camp and the melee camp. Melee report TP. BLM report MP. When ready we need to try and keep DL from moving so the BLMs can get off a barrage of nukes. Maybe we can have him be shadowbind. He'll move again once one hits but I think it might hold him in place long enough to get the nukes to start hitting.

6. Pretty self explanatory from here on out. Re-raise get TP or MP and work DL down to nothing.

Misc. notes....

I wanna station one person who can marathon DL at the steps leading up to the castle. So when he goes into sprint home mode somone can get aggro and run him back down the hill.

Prolly the two most important things are to not have everyone die at once. So we need the melee to get out after they use TP and get to their camp. Being sure to watch not to drag DL down the hill away from the mages. Second is not to let DL get up to the mages and start whiping them out. BLMs if you have to space out your nukes. Don't just go crazy and nuke one after another really fast. We really need to keep you guys up so when he's really low you can finish him off.

Be sure to get appropriate food for what you plan on using as a weaponskill. I.e. HP food if spirits within.

Re-raise items save huge amounts of xp for people. Get these you won't regret it. Lets try and get that new mage re-raise item some how. The enhancement is pretty cheap that is needed for bonecrafting you could prolly get enough gp to get it within a week.

PLEASE TRUST our ability to defeat him. Don't half ass it and not get what you need. Last time I know there were still a bunch of people who did not bring enough sleep pots, or were not re-raising after they died 1 time. We can win and it will become pretty easy if we all go 100%.

The Dragons... I think prolly the best thing to try and do is have the BLMs not cast -ga spells and get a few NIN or War/NIN to run this guys off. They are a pain and can become quite a nuisance.

If anyone sees anything I missed or if you would like to suggest something please do.

Scytale
04-26-2005, 10:18 AM
One thing I saw when I got a chance to watch Feather kill Tiamat, and I saw the same thing in a video of another ls beating Vrtra, they use Stun throughout their battles. For obvious reasons we would still use the Rdm/drk chain-spell stun for everyone's WS, but after all the TP is used is when things get "iffy"

What I saw both these Wyrm ls' doing was using stun constantly throughout the fight. Basically boiled down to they had about 6-8 people in the alliance (and since we do dynamis we'd have even more!) either blm, drk, or sub drk. They had an order set up for their stuns (like for us it'd be Fatman, Wrish, Krish, Lego, Maju, Cyrus, etc) so 1 would stun, then you'd wait 5 seconds or so, then the next would stun.

THE KEY TO THIS is working out the number of seconds between stun based on the number of stunners you have so when the rotation was completed the FIRST person's re-cast timer would be ready to stun again (stun is 45 second recast right?) So if we have 10 stunners (10 blm's in the blm alliance) that could translate as 1 stun every ~4.5 seconds.

This isn't like trying to stun a -ga or AM. It works trying to limit normal hits, tp gain, stopping random WS' or special moves, etc. This shouldn't interupt the normal blm operation since they are only stunning once (per person) every 45 seconds, the rest of the time they can nuke their hearts out.

This technique I think is one of the major factors that allows ls' like Feather to defeat the 3 Wyrms, I don't see why it couldn't help out some against DL as well.

Radav
04-26-2005, 11:04 AM
<3 Scytale. How's noobin it up in Valkurm been? Been waiting to see you back in Dynamis let me know whenever your ready.

Stun order.. I'll see what I can do about that.

Irinicus
04-26-2005, 11:43 AM
Can DL be stunned? Just asking cause I know one HNM that cannot be(Kirin) and dont know if SE made DL unstunable. there maybe one problem with that, albeit a small potential, but while BLMS are casting stun, if lag is an issue there, that will make the stun order a bit harder to go on time, also may make casting other spells take longer and this may prevent a BLM his/her turn to stun. I have an idea to aleviate this though. Find out how many stunners we have, I yet cannot be there I need the other cities b4 I join you, then replace some drk or /drk in the stun order freeing up some BLM's on the side to go full nukeage. Then the stun peeps can nuke if they can as long as they do not forget their turn to stun. Just a simple suggestion you can take it or leave it. :p

Scytale
04-26-2005, 12:05 PM
Doesn't necessarily need to be blm, I picked them as an example because they could filter all "others" out only seeing "Alliance" to avoid extra chat garbage.

I'm done with the dunes >< I went through 4 jobs in a row and I said screw it so lol.

I might make Wednesday, but not sure I need to scam my way out of a volleyball game, if not I'll make plans to show up Sunday. Got my reraise Hairpin already (Thanks to Supersayingalka! ^^)

edit:

http://www.kamfantasy.com/VrtraHP.avi

Not taking credit for finding this, Nuclear posted this one first

Tyrlafiel
04-26-2005, 01:49 PM
Can DL be stunned? Just asking cause I know one HNM that cannot be(Kirin) and dont know if SE made DL unstunable.
Yes, DL can be stunned. We know this because we have fought him a few times already, and you can download films of LSes on other servers fighting him the same way.

Just a note tho, Kirin can be stunned also. It just gets resisted 99+% of the time. I may even have a screenshot of the Kirin stunned text somewhere.

Tyr

Irinicus
04-26-2005, 02:04 PM
Ok that idea sounds great to try. Just wish I was there to offer my BLM assistance, /sigh. If you do this, I wish you all luck and will be rooting for you back in the real world of Vanadiel.

Juma
04-26-2005, 03:03 PM
better off sticking to the strategy we used last time and focus on executing it correctly this time, since last time he was about 5% or so

Scytale
04-26-2005, 03:37 PM
beautiful thing about it is it's not changing anything, it's adding onto it.

Brightblade
04-26-2005, 04:06 PM
I'm with Scy on this one. That's a downright bitchin' idea.

Would it be possible for us also to have a single person dedicated to renewing claim on the DL, while garnering as little hate as possible? Say...someone standing around with three stacks of pebbles who hangs around just outside AOE range?

Assuming that a single pebble wouldn't doom him, it might help us avoid the unfortunate events of last time.

Radav
04-26-2005, 04:13 PM
Here's the list of things that I put together before a Xarcabard run just for those of you curious about the prep work I do.

Alliance formations >> Chainspell Stun Order >> Invincible Order >> RDM ES Debuff Order. This is what I have done in the past as well as put together a BRD + RNG x5 party.

Here's what I wanna add.

Stun Order, Shadowbind Order, and 2 people to be our last defense against DL going for his HP.

The reason I wanted to mention this is because I really need everyone to follow the rule about not talking in the link unless your needed to. I have a real hard time figuring out who's done what cause everyone is spamming random stuff in the link chat and I can't get an answer to my questions. I know everyone has various things they wanna communicate but I BEG you to please do a /p then let your alliance leader to relay that information if he sees fit.

Radav
04-28-2005, 12:16 PM
Moved the thread over to the Announcements thread. Same as usual guys get the stuff on the list please. We'll make short work of him this time. *knocks on wood*

Fatman
04-28-2005, 03:51 PM
Its a nice thought but unfortunately I don't think having a stun order will work.

I think a better idea would be to have everyone who can stun do it right after they deal any damage to DL.

When we lose perfect hate control on DL which we will after oblivion smash thats a guarantee a simple stun is gonna get you killed because it seems DL attacks whoever hits him at that point.

Hate on DL with 64 people attacking is chaos at a certain point. I just dont see exactly how we could keep a stun order on him since you have to be in range to use stun and he moves around and does it fast. Weve seen that DL can do AoE even when being chainspell stunned.

I assume you will try to do a stun order reguardless of my post but I agree with Juma-chan so please don't include me in the stun order.

Radav
04-28-2005, 03:55 PM
I could have sworn someone was telling me they needed DL to be stopped so they could cast on him once he starts moving all over. I just thought this might help. Maybe shadowbind is a better option for this.

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Kxpuc
04-28-2005, 04:01 PM
Nero di Seppia gives you +130 hp

Boscaiola +120 hp, +35 mp

Pescatora gives +5 store TP, 65 defense, 150 hp (+15% if your under 1000 hp)


and strangly enough
Carbonara +5 Store TP, 175 HP (+14% if your under 1250hp), 65 attack (360 base)

pretty much all the new italian food gives +hp 70-175 hp
which is good for the spirts within people

Fatman
04-28-2005, 05:19 PM
Its a nice thought but unfortunately I don't think having a stun order will work.

I just dont see exactly how we could keep a stun order on him since you have to be in range to use stun and he moves around and does it fast. Weve seen that DL can do AoE even when being chainspell stunned.


I didnt post to make anyone mad.

I'll be more than happy to do stun order if anyone can explain to me how that will keep DL in place when Chainspell Stun barely does and guarantee that we will beat DL more easily. It WILL keep the 6-8 people in the stun order from contributing any damage to DL.

I thought we all agreed that we would have won last time had we not had the screw up with not assigning a PLD to tank DL after the pull.

I want to beat DL then worry about tweaking strategy with the potential to screw up the tweaking. If we know we can win doing it just like we did it last time then why change things?... remember we thought not using a PLD in the beginning would be better last time our strategy improvement cost us the fight.

Eltia
04-28-2005, 09:51 PM
April only has 30 days? XD

Fatman
04-29-2005, 04:23 PM
No Eltia,


President George W. Bush has declared tomorrow such an Awesome day since it's my birthday that April will be extended one day

So In The U.S. today is April 29th, tomorrow is April 30th, Sunday is April 31st, and Monday is May 2nd.

Radav
04-29-2005, 04:30 PM
Orrrr I just don't bother looking at a calendar when I post this stuff and guessed April had 31 days. I was wrong.

May 1st. Sunday 7pm EST is when we'll be doing the run. Not April 31st. Since apparently that day doesn't exist.

Helm
04-30-2005, 05:45 AM
>.>; happy birthday

Eltia
04-30-2005, 01:29 PM
Bad Bush, bad Taru... ヽ(`д´)ノ

Don't make me ask Helm to pet you there!

Radav
04-30-2005, 07:04 PM
Let me just second what Kxpuc said and ask the people using spirits within use the Pescatora or Carbanara as food for when we fight DL.

Please make sure to get the stuff on the list.

Nhon
05-01-2005, 03:56 PM
There are medicines on ah that grants flee I think, in case anyone wants to run faster to get away from DL.

Juma
05-01-2005, 06:15 PM
nono nonon no no! nobody should want these potions to run away from the lord! people should want these potions to hurry up and get over to him so they can do their heroic shield bash!


sheesh..

Radav
05-10-2005, 09:44 AM
No run this Wednesday so please work on getting these items together for Sunday. We'll do it this Sunday guys..

Kxpuc
05-14-2005, 01:39 PM
i wont be able to make it to sunday or next wed's run's due to being out of town and at E3